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General Discussion / Re: The French Connection
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 26, 2026, 04:39:38 pm »
Pete:

That address (4 Bowling Green) was the French Consulate in 1891.
Today, it's a museum for American Indians....

https://americanindian.si.edu/visit/ny
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General Discussion / Re: The French Connection
« Last post by Kattrup on January 26, 2026, 03:42:43 pm »
D'Abzac's home address, from the 1890 NY Directory:

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Noticed the NY public Library has a letter he wrote 1890 online https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/e27318a0-b0e0-0133-8e28-00505686d14e?canvasIndex=0
Not relevant to anything
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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 26, 2026, 02:07:34 pm »
A couple of press descriptions of Alice.

I can't find the reference to her chin, yet.

New York Evening World
June 30, 1891
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New York Evening World
July 2, 1891
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Miscellaneous Section / Re: Updated Fact Feast: 19th Century American Videos
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 25, 2026, 05:34:37 pm »
Updated January 25, 2026
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Titles of the 31 episodes...in the links in the previous post.

Twenty-nine of the following videos are New York related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMVmBhqOTQ&list=PLLSSHJuYZhj6UwyndGFjAEssjC0z4xXU_

There is one video on Indiana slums, one on Philadelphia, three
on Washington, D.C. one on Los Angeles, and two on Boston, in addition to the New York videos.

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Two related videos in this link are New York-related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2CVZfNiBck&list=PLLSSHJuYZhj7L8CqIIm4UlEniX1Th2ipu



1-Dangerous 'Gangs of New York' 1800s Slums (Battles, Riots and Crime)
Fact Feast

2-How BAD was a Night in an 1800s New York Flophouse? (Filthy Underground Lodging Houses)
Fact Feast

3-Survival in New York's 1800s Slums – Lives of the Tenement Poor
Fact Feast

4-Gambling with Your Life in New York's 1800s Slums (The Numbers Racket and Poverty)
Fact Feast

5-How BAD were New York Saloons in the 1800s? (Back Alley Drinking Dives)
Fact Feast

6-The Horror of Gotham Court – New York's Notorious 1800s Slum Tenement
Fact Feast

7-New York's FIVE POINTS SLUM Beer Dives - 1800s Underground Crime
Fact Feast

8-The Brutal Life of an 1800s New York 'Dead Beat' (Street Life in the Slums of Manhattan)
Fact Feast

9-The Unimaginable Filth in 1800s New York's Dirtiest Slum (Rag Pickers and Garbage Dumps)
Fact Feast

10-New York Tenement Slums (From American Dream to Living Nightmare)
Fact Feast

11-Survival in New York's brutal FIVE POINTS Slum (The Bend on Mulberry Street)
Fact Feast

12-New York Cellar Prisoners (Hell Holes of the Five Points Slum)
Fact Feast

13-Slumming it in the Tenements (American Slum Life)
Fact Feast

14-The Battle for New York's Slums (Immigration and Conflict in 19th Century Tenements)
Fact Feast

15-The White Death (Slum Life in America)
Fact Feast

16-New York's Brutal Back Alley Slums (Double Alley in the 1800s)
Fact Feast

17-A Horrific Night in a Filthy 1800s New York Flophouse (Lodging Houses for the Poor)
Fact Feast

18-New York's Slums of Shadow (Hell under Brooklyn Bridge in the 1800s)
Fact Feast

19-Broke in 1800s Brooklyn (New York) Battle to Survive on Streets
Fact Feast

20-Slum Kids of New York (Life on the Streets in the 1800s)
Fact Feast

21-New York's 1800s EVIL Dance Saloons (Dirty Dancing in the Slums)
Fact Feast

22-Survival in New York's BRUTAL 1800s Bohemian Slums (The Tenements of No Escape)
Fact Feast

23-The NIGHTMARE of 1800s New York Boarding Houses (Dangerous People and Terrible Food)
Fact Feast

24-Food of Poverty in 1800s New York - What the Poor Ate to Survive
Fact Feast

25-New York's 1800s Criminals Unmasked (The Gilded Age of Rogues)
Fact Feast

26-New York's BRUTAL Tombs Prison - 1800s Squalor and Scandal
Fact Feast

27-How BAD was a Saloon in New York's 1800s Five Points Slum?
Fact Feast

28-Dark Secrets of 1800s New York - Mysterious Slums and Hidden Lives
Fact Feast

29-Labyrinths of the Lost: How People Disappeared in New York's Old Tenements

30-What Did 1800 New Yorkers Eat To Survive The Slums?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLeo5tXYQTE&list=PLLSSHJuYZhj6UwyndGFjAEssjC0z4xXU_&index=31

31-  Forgotten Crimes of 1800s New York - Sneakers, Dampers, Blowers and Bursters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxrLRvhU6jo

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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 25, 2026, 05:14:46 pm »
Like Yogi Berra once said...."It ain't over until it's over..."

I'll keep plugging at it, buddy.
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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Kattrup on January 25, 2026, 05:12:12 pm »
Ok, thanks.
Thought they were the same because of the mention of another man, Galvin, doing 20 years, in both articles.
 
Guess Mrs Sullivan will remain elusive, doesn’t seem to be any way to track her down for the time being.
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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 25, 2026, 04:28:49 pm »
Pete:

The John Leonards in the two articles from 1875 and 1881 are white.

In Feb. 1881, Leonard, the white one, was arrested with John Quinn and James McDonald
for the jewelry store robbery.
The incident in 1875 refers to that John Leonard, too.

 Check this out....

 Nina just found this:

 1878 Chicago City Directory

 Hugh Mulligan...married...a cooper.

 176 North Desplaines. ::)....the house number given by Alice Sullivan.

Mulligan never left Chicago, dying in 1910.
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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Kattrup on January 25, 2026, 03:45:09 pm »
Some further crimes:

The Sun, Feb 8, 1875

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Tribune, july 13 1884

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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Kattrup on January 25, 2026, 03:31:19 pm »
Nice stuff, Pete....John Leonard was, allegedly, 300 pounds.

He was also, the article mentions, German.
No, the third guy Leonard assaulted was 300 pounds, German, and ended up sitting on Leonard until the police arrived.

Here's another story of his exploits, NY Herald nov. 17 1879
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General Discussion / Re: Alice Sullivan: Trial Testimony & Bellevue Hospital
« Last post by Howard Brown on January 25, 2026, 03:16:09 pm »
Nice stuff, Pete....John Leonard was, allegedly, 300 pounds.

He was also, the article mentions, German.

How many children named Alice were born in White Plains NY in 1851-1855?

That's one avenue to pursue, but then again, was she even born in the U.S?
We'd likely have to go to Westchester to examine their county archives. Without
her true surname, we might wind up with a couple or more Alices born during the years
between 1851 and 1855.

Population of Westchester County in 1850 was 58,000 and change. There were approximately 2,000 people in White Plains, at that time.


When she said she had  'frequented the dives since her husband's death', that was a lie.
She was in prison before he died, and you know that that larceny rap wasn't her first rodeo.

She certainly wasn't younger than Miniter.  Lopez was 36 or 37. Corcoran was younger than her ( around 25).
Healy and English didn't testify at the Inquest.....which leaves Harrington, who did.
Sullivan was also made fun of for a few prominent hairs on her chin.
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