Author Topic: The Quest to Find a Photo of The East River Hotel - 1876 Joshua Beil NYC HDQ Panorama  (Read 1368 times)

Howard Brown

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Once bitten, twice shy.....so I'm just going to guess that this would be a likely spot for the hotel.
The star is first site I guessed it would be....

The two lines designate what I believe to be Catherine Slip.  It was James Street, Oliver Street, and then Catherine Slip

The arrow above the proposed site


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One way or the other, good going YF in finding the expanded photograph.


 


« Last Edit: January 12, 2023, 08:49:34 pm by Howard Brown »

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That's good work, Howard. I have to look at it more closely tomorrow but I know that Newyorkontrial.com had the sketch of the Hotel with the Round Roofed building in the foreground. I see one such building in the right place on the opposite corner.

Do you think it's behind the whitish building, almost completely obscured except for maybe the awning? Corner of the roof maybe?

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This one here....appears to be on the corner ( southwest corner ) of the intersection.



If you look at the sketch of the Hotel on www.carriebrown.net  the top of the building's facade isn't rounded.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2023, 11:00:40 pm by Howard Brown »

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I meant this one directly across from the East River Hotel.

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So was the East River Hotel whitish? I never pictured it white.

The sketch on your webpage does indicate whiteness.

And would that then be the white side facing the River? The next unit set further back? So the awning can go around the that other corner again?

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So was the East River Hotel whitish? I never pictured it white.

The sketch on your webpage does indicate whiteness.

And would that then be the white side facing the River? The next unit set further back? So the awning can go around the that other corner again?

I meant this one directly across from the East River Hotel.


I've read one description of the hotel's brickwork as being yellowish.
The building you're pointing out would be on the southeast corner of Catherine Slip. It doesn't seem to be in view.
The sketch on CB Net does seem to indicate whiteness but that's a financial decision on the sketch artist's editors part ( a man named Murray for the New York Press newspaper) to use the inexpensive white over the more expensive yellow colorization.  NY newspapers in 1891 didn't colorize artistic renditions.

Our concern should be on a building in the position as I've pointed out....on the southwest corner of Catherine Slip.  All else is really irrelevant.

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There's sun coming through so there does appear to be a passageway to the courtyard of the blook.

The two buildings, 3 windows across and 3 and 4 stories, beside where the hotel once stood appear yellowish as well and they look like original surviving buildings. Sun shining on it would make it look white.

Across the street, wouldn't those be the market buildings?

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The shadows show you the shape of the adjoined units.


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Yungstreet:

This is the best sketch of the hotel out of all the sketches I've come across.


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Arrows point down Catherine Slip.. the building next to the site where the Hotel once stood had yet to be razed.


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It's not razed in the right photo. But could it be razed in the left one? There's what looks like a gate with signs and an open lot.

The second (or is it the third) one to the left of the Hotel Lot in the 20th century photos is five stories so is not the original one or was built up.

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Yungstreet:

Disregard the previous post I had made and have now deleted.....those two photos were not of the former site. The post I entered prior to YOUR last post is correct...the one I added after your last post wasn't.


All three of these have something in common....the 4 story building.

In this official photo, the little building is labeled 11 Catherine Slip which was diagonal from 14-16 Catherine Slip.

The two photos I posted in the previous post after  your last post were listed in such a way as to infer that it was as I posted.....but no matter...it was incorrect.

Here are the three photos together. The one with the man standing in the middle of Water Street is that 'official' photo. He is  actually standing on the corner of Catherine Slip in the exact spot of the former hotel.

Sorry for the confusion.












« Last Edit: January 15, 2023, 09:05:45 am by Howard Brown »

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I got it now: the "Restaurant" was on the site of the East River Hotel. It wasn't the "Bar and Grill" that looks similar but is kiddy-corner to the Restaurant.

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I got it now: the "Restaurant" was on the site of the East River Hotel. It wasn't the "Bar and Grill" that looks similar but is kiddy-corner to the Restaurant.

Bingo, gringo. You've got it...