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The Four Pardon Campaigns 1897-1898 : 1899: 1900: 1901
« on: September 24, 2022, 09:13:40 am »
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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2022, 09:37:23 am »



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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2022, 07:37:30 pm »
New York Times
December 4, 1901
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Paul Fuller ( 1848-1915 ) was a respected attorney.  A PDf featuring the 1916 tribute to Fuller from Fordham University

He worked for Coudert Bros., which like Fuller were very respected in their field.....  PDFs included.

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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2023, 08:48:16 am »
Article mentioning some of the jurists on the trial nine years earlier now signing a petition during the third pardon campaign.

New York Sun
March 8, 1900
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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2023, 03:12:48 pm »
It's become necessary to update this thread due to oversights.

First of all, there were 4 Governors who were approached with a petition to pardon.
Secondly, there were three attempts when Gov. Roswell Flower ( 1st of 4 Governors) was in office.  Ali wrote him a letter in June 1893 and  notice of the first effort to have him released was published in the papers but the appeal was denied. I assume it was either in late June or early July as I cannot pinpoint the date.  Two other efforts in 1894 ( conveniently after D.A. De Lancey Nicoll had left office on January 1st....convenient in the sense he would have challenged and defeated the effort), January and October 1894 were denied.

So far, and I'll correct it if I'm wrong, Gov. Black and Gov. Roosevelt received 1 petition each.  Gov. Odell's in 1901 makes 6 petitions to pardon.

Buffalo Courier
July 14, 1893
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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2023, 03:29:34 pm »
Meriden (Ct. ) Daily Republican
September 4, 1897
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Re: The Pardon Campaigns
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2023, 04:39:56 pm »
On December 3, 1901, Coudert Bros. law firm sent junior partner, 42 year old Paul Fuller, to Albany for a meeting with Governor Odell, the final push for a pardon.

This is a biography of Fuller in the PDF below :

New York Sun
November 30, 1915
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Re: The Three Pardon Campaigns 1897-1900-1901
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2023, 02:10:22 pm »
You'll have to 'pardon' me for the mistake, but there were only three organized pardon campaigns.
The first was in 1897. It failed because Ali nearly killed ( or some might say....murdered) William Greef in Matteawan Asylum.
The second was in 1900. It failed because Gov. Roosevelt stated, quite correctly, that there was no tangible evidence that warranted releasing Ali.
The third was in May 1901. Robillard sent Damon's first affidavit to Gov. Odell.  Meanwhile, Ali sent his first of two letters to the Governor.

We have ten letters sent from Ali to four different Governors.  Govs. Flower, Morton, Roosevelt, and Odell. 
The first three letters he sent ( six in all) to Governor Flower were all rejected and had been incorrectly believed as being 'pardon campaigns'.
Those were the June 1893, September 1894, and November 1894 letters. Ali, of course, asked to be released.

This letter preceded the 1893 request from Ali to Flower.  In fact, it was submitted in 1892 when Nicoll was the DA and Flower had just stepped into office as Governor.




Gov. Flower and DA Nicoll both had no idea who was behind the plea for clemency in late 1893 resulting in this letter:



Third request.....this is why I became confused with the number of pardon campaigns.  It was no 'campaign' in the usual sense of the word.




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Re: The Three Pardon Campaigns 1897-1900-1901
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2023, 03:30:33 pm »
Contrary to what Ali The Loser said, there had been an effort made by Levy, Friend, and House on the day of the sentence.
The two-legged dirtbag claimed that he had no support while in the US until the French became involved in 1897 resulting in his
release, whether for a good reason or as the result of a scam that set a guilty man free.


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Re: The Four Pardon Campaigns 1897-1898 : 1899: 1900: 1901
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2023, 11:38:13 am »
I'm gettin' older and I'm gettin' dumber...supposed to be the other way around.

There were FOUR organized pardon efforts. They were led by Ovide Robillard with the full support of French representatives.


The first was in November 1897, flopping in January of 1898. It failed because Ali nearly killed ( or some might say....murdered) William Greef in Matteawan Asylum.
The second was in April 1899. It failed because Gov. Roosevelt stated, quite correctly, that there was no tangible evidence that warranted releasing Ali.
The third was in March 1900. Roosevelt turned that one down
The fourth was in the Spring of 1901.  That one succeeded.

Articles touching on the pardons from 1897-1898, 1900, and 1901 are already posted on this thread.

This is the 1899 reference to a pardon that I failed to remember earlier. 

I apologize for the error and any confusion.


New York World
April 13, 1899
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