Carrie Brown : Murder In The East River Hotel

Okay, I forgot to take into account the Legal position and that of Law Enforcement that might still be entrenched in absolute guilt. In that case, I’d say it’s helpful. You’re at least creating reasonable doubt.

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Wouldn't it be for the best if other people investigated the case to a greater degree and then let them decide as to whether there's 'reasonable doubt' or at least provide some solid counter-evidence to support positions under scrutiny ?  People shouldn't depend solely on any one person's conclusions before they've read the books themselves. 

Both Underwood and Dekle in their books are critical of Wellman and Nicoll ( Perhaps Underwood a little more since Dekle was a Asst. D. A. for decades and could relate to things Wellman, for instance, said...such as his opening statement which brought up some of Ali's sordid history in NYC.  That probably wouldn't float in 2022 and Nicoll's racially-tinged closing statement which was likely to have been an attempt to appeal to the juror's ( that Ali consorted with White women )  race consciousness, most certainly would be censored today although Dekle has stated that when the jury is removed from the courtroom in his experience, far more egregious comments are made out of earshot). It had no impact as interracial liaisons had been going on in Lower Manhattan for over 50 years. ( New York By Gaslight, 1850, George Foster) If the trial was held in west Alabama in 1891, then yes...it might have had some impact.

YF :

Interesting video.

I'd go with the last option....that he unwittingly left the door open


In the 1932 film, The Kennel Murder Case ( William Powell, Mary Astor, Eugene Pallette)....there's something right up your alley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhJu_R38OKY&ab_channel=CultCinemaClassics

It begins at 39:28

Do you see the irony of this case with the one we cut our teeth on -- the case for the Jack the Ripper suspect in the secure ward (What number was it? 9?) of The London Hospital (with the Elephant Man) - Roslyn D'Onston Stephenson.

Maybe we need to bring in some Black Magic Arts!

I go back to my Closed Elevator Mystery where the police obviously misrepresented the scene. The door had to be opened to let the person out at some point. The victim wasn’t inside. It’s not like Isidor Fink.

Option 5 for Isidor Fink where the door was always unlocked and the police covered it up doesn’t work unless the child who went through the transom window and opened the door was in on it.

Did you abandon D’Onston because of the fantasies, plagiarisms and stories that didn’t add up or because of the Locked Ward and the 10 foot fence?

He turned out to be no one to take seriously. It wasn't just one thing.

I don’t know that there might not be a similarity between D’Onston and Ali if they are both exonerated rightly and/or respectively wrongly by being locked in or out.

Exoneration doesn't come into play with RDS since he wasn't charged with anything as it does with Ali.
RDS is dismissed from the lengthy and laughable list of WM suspects by the fact he was incapable of leaving the London Hospital.
Ali, on the other hand, may have been guilty or may not have been guilty.  If innocent, then both can be considered dismissed as suspects in the respective crimes.

I guess that would also include Ripper suspects who have been brought up for this case like La Bruckman and H H Holmes, as well as Ali, if neither of them is C Kniclo.

La Bruckman had an iron-clad alibi for the night in question, thoroughly investigated, and is definitely out.  Holmes is not even remotely worthy of consideration..in the WM or Brown case. In fact, he didn't commit the number of murders he's alleged to have committed.
The only reason La Bruckman comes up as a suspect in the WM series is because either he or one of the reporters came up with the story he had been arrested in London. Total nonsense.
The only reason Holmes' name comes up is because that relative of his brings it up.  It's a delusion of his which he's welcome to.
I'd prefer not having to waste any more time on discussing WM suspects or men suggested as being the culprit having zero interest in that series of murders.
Zero.